On this episode, Phil talks with author Trevin Wax. Trevin is a general editor of The Gospel Project, theology advisor at LifeWay Christian Resources, visiting professor at Wheaton College, and contributor writer to The Gospel Coalition. He’s written multiple books, including The Multi-Directional Leader, Rethink Your Self, This Is Our Time, Eschatalogical Discipleship, and Gospel Centered Teaching.

During this in-depth conversation, Phil and Trevin discuss the American church versus the international church, the importance of involving young people in church leadership, and their hope for the next generation!